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                                          Q: 
                                           Often, liberals (myself included) 
                                          accuse conservatives of hypocrisy because 
                                          they are pro-life and yet support the 
                                          death penalty. As a Catholic, I have 
                                          a hard time responding to similar accusations--that 
                                          I am a hypocrite because I do not support 
                                          the death penalty yet consider myself 
                                          pro-choice. What are your thoughts on 
                                          this? I need a comeback!  
                                          A: 
                                            There is a difference between a fetus 
                                            that cannot survive on its own, and 
                                            an autonomous human being. I find 
                                            the pro-choice, anti-death penalty 
                                            positions consistent because both 
                                            support the value of the individual, 
                                            and both oppose the state's power 
                                            over the individual--whether to make 
                                            decisions about our reproductive lives, 
                                            or the length of our lives. 
                                            
                                            However, I also think the Catholic, 
                                            patriarchal position is consistent 
                                            in a different way. There, the crucial 
                                            thing seems to be not what is decided 
                                            but who decides. Thus, the state may 
                                            take a life in capital punishment 
                                            or war, but for the individual to 
                                            control reproduction is subversive. 
                                            This also makes more sense of the 
                                            Catholic Church's historic position: 
                                            it allowed abortion up to the mid 
                                            1800's and even regulated it; a female 
                                            fetus could be aborted for a greater 
                                            number of weeks than could a male 
                                            fetus. (It was wrongly thought that 
                                            a male fetus "quickened" earlier, 
                                            thus sex could be determined.) This 
                                            was changed at the demand of Napolean 
                                            III who wanted to increase the French 
                                            population which had been decimated 
                                            by war. He struck a bargain with Pope 
                                            Pius IX--who wanted Napolean to support 
                                            the Doctrine of Papal Infallibility. 
                                            Thus, Catholic opposition to abortion 
                                            doesn't seem to have been based on 
                                            ensoulment or when life began, but 
                                            a need to increase population. (Even 
                                            The Bible makes clear that a man who 
                                            strikes a women and causes her to 
                                            lose her pregnancy has not committed 
                                            murder. Thus a fetus is not a person.) 
                                            
                                            
                                          Q: 
                                          How do you feel the issue of abortion 
                                          is represented by the Democratic Party? 
                                           
                                           A: 
                                            It's represented pretty well in terms 
                                            of voting. For instance, in the 104th 
                                            Congress out of 47 Democratic US Senators, 
                                            38 were pro-choice (meaning they have 
                                            a 100% pro-choice voting record or 
                                            they support one or two restrictions 
                                            like parental notification and a 24 
                                            hour waiting period). Of the 53 Republican 
                                            Senators, only 6 were pro-choice and 
                                            47 were anti-choice. (*The 105th Congress 
                                            looks pretty much the same in terms 
                                            of Republican and Democratic breakdowns. 
                                            For a general overview, choice should 
                                            be represented in the following way 
                                            come January, 1997: In the Senate 
                                            there will be 44 who are pro-choice; 
                                            5 who are mixed-on-choice and 51 who 
                                            are anti-choice. In the House of Representatives 
                                            there will be 158 pro-choice representatives; 
                                            38 who are mixed-on-choice; and 233 
                                            who are anti-choice. There are still 
                                            6 races to be decided.) However, in 
                                            both parties, there is more opposition 
                                            to the issues of reproductive freedom 
                                            than there is in the public at large. 
                                            That's true in the Republican party 
                                            because of its control by rightwing 
                                            extremists, especially the religious 
                                            right. (Though the majority of Republicans 
                                            are pro-choice, the Party Platform 
                                            supports a Constitutional Amendment 
                                            to confer personhood on the fertilized 
                                            egg--thus equating abortion with murder.) 
                                            But it's also true among some Democrats, 
                                            because the anti-choice minority of 
                                            Americans often turns out a bigger 
                                            proportion of their voters than does 
                                            the pro-choice majority. 
                                            
                                            Even when Democrats vote right, they 
                                            often don't know how to talk about 
                                            the issue, and therefore fail to get 
                                            the full benefit of their overwhelming 
                                            majority support. To help remedy this, 
                                            Voters For Choice has prepared 
                                            an excellent guide for candidates 
                                            and individuals alike: Winning 
                                            With Choice. To order: contact 
                                            Voters For Choice, 
                                            PO Box 53301, Washington, DC 20040-5301; 
                                            #202-588-5200.
                                            
                                          Q: 
                                          What do you think of Clinton's veto 
                                          of the bill that would have penalized 
                                          doctors who perform "partial birth" 
                                          abortions? Do you have any qualms about 
                                          this barbaric practice?  
                                           A: 
                                            First of all, it isn't a "partial 
                                            birth" abortion. As the 35,000 members 
                                            of the American College of Obstetricians 
                                            and Gynecologists wrote in a letter 
                                            to Dole last year, when he was still 
                                            majority leader of the Senate, "in 
                                            defining what medical procedures doctors 
                                            may or may not perform, HR1833 [the 
                                            bill banning third trimester abortions, 
                                            even to preserve a woman's health] 
                                            employs terminology that is not even 
                                            recognized in the medical community--demonstrating 
                                            why Congressional opinion should never 
                                            be substituted for professional medical 
                                            judgment... The College finds very 
                                            disturbing that Congress would take 
                                            any action that would supersede the 
                                            medical judgment of trained physicians 
                                            and criminalize medical procedures 
                                            that may be necessary to save the 
                                            life of the woman." 
                                            
                                            Second, there are about 600 of these 
                                            a year, and they are performed only 
                                            when there is a risk to the woman's 
                                            life or health and/or a severe fetal 
                                            anomaly that would not allow the fetus 
                                            to function or survive. If this procedure 
                                            were needed by someone in the families 
                                            of those who voted to ban it, I suspect 
                                            that everyone of them--including Dole--would 
                                            want it to be available. If it were 
                                            illegal, they could fly to other countries 
                                            to have this procedure--as the average 
                                            patient could not. 
                                            
                                            Therefore, I'm proud of President 
                                            Clinton for having listened not only 
                                            to the medical profession, but also 
                                            to individual women who have had this 
                                            procedure--several of whom were anti-abortion 
                                            until they discovered that they might 
                                            otherwise risk life, health and future 
                                            fertility to give birth to a child 
                                            who could not survive. 
                                            
                                            I think that you, too, would rather 
                                            make your own decisions with your 
                                            doctor than have politicians vote 
                                            on them--and have to accept their 
                                            dictates. All women ask of you--or 
                                            of Congress--is what you or the members 
                                            of Congress would be likely to want 
                                            for yourselves. (If anyone would like 
                                            copies of the stories of women who 
                                            have actually had this rare procedure, 
                                            let me know where to send them.)
                                            
                                          Q: 
                                          First I want to say that I admire you 
                                          and respect what you have done for the 
                                          women's movement in the past. I think 
                                          it takes people like you to change things. 
                                          A catalyst so to speak. One thing that 
                                          bothers me greatly however is that whenever 
                                          the subject of women comes up it is 
                                          insinuated that women are a homogenous 
                                          group...pro-choice, democrat, pro-gay/lesbian, 
                                          etc. It bothers me when the press refers 
                                          to women as if they all think and vote 
                                          alike. I especially see a frank ignoring 
                                          of the fact that there are conservative 
                                          women out there who are not right wing 
                                          zealots and heretics as the press likes 
                                          to paint conservatives. My question 
                                          to you is this: I know you are pro choice. 
                                          Have you ever had doubts about your 
                                          position as you have gotten older (and 
                                          wiser?) Have you ever had a moment of 
                                          doubt when you have said to yourself 
                                          "what if this is really wrong?" "what 
                                          if we are held accountable at some point?" 
                                          I know as I've aged, things that were 
                                          once very black and white for me have 
                                          turned somewhat gray. As a pro-life 
                                          woman, I have often had moments when 
                                          I have thought "maybe it just all doesn't 
                                          matter. Maybe we are just blobs of protoplasm..." 
                                          Just wondered if the same ever happens 
                                          to you on the pro choice side? Thank 
                                          you.  
                                          
                                           A: 
                                            I agree that the media's treatment 
                                            of the gender gap makes women seem 
                                            all alike. In fact, African American 
                                            women are the most likely to support 
                                            issues of equality, single and college-educated 
                                            women come next, and by the time you 
                                            get to white married women, the gender 
                                            gap is very narrow. I also don't think 
                                            "conservative" and "liberal" mean 
                                            much when applied to the sexual and 
                                            racial caste systems. (I always think 
                                            of my friend who said that she'd been 
                                            married to one Marxist and one fascist, 
                                            and neither one took the garbage out.) 
                                            In fact, being pro-choice is a classically 
                                            conservative position that most Republicans 
                                            share: against government interference 
                                            in the reproductive lives of citizens. 
                                            I've never doubted being pro-choice 
                                            because it protects your choice as 
                                            well as mine. Being pro-choice means 
                                            going to the same lengths to protect 
                                            a woman from being coerced into having 
                                            an abortion as to keep abortion safe 
                                            and legal. (An early pro-choice activity 
                                            was opposing the coerced sterilization 
                                            of Hispanic women in California, and 
                                            winning informed-consent guidelines 
                                            in both English and Spanish.) I do 
                                            think "pro-abortion" was the wrong 
                                            term--since everyone would like to 
                                            reduce the necessity of abortion. 
                                            I prefer reproductive freedom--the 
                                            freedom to have as well as not to 
                                            have children. 
                                            
                                            I appreciate the openness of spirit 
                                            in your question. I hope that you 
                                            would support my choice, as well as 
                                            your own. And in any case, we could 
                                            work together for contraception and 
                                            sex education that would diminish 
                                            the necessity of abortion.
                                            
                                          Q: 
                                            I think its important that Dole not 
                                            be elected, and therefore will vote 
                                            for Clinton. How can I support Clinton, 
                                            and still "punish" him for signing 
                                            the homophobic Defense of Marriage 
                                            Act? 
                                           A: 
                                            I don't know if there is a realistic 
                                            way to punish him other than writing--and 
                                            publicizing exactly how you feel and 
                                            exactly why it is so unjust for the 
                                            government to deny marital benefits. 
                                            Obviously, it's a bias like the ban 
                                            in some states on interracial marriage 
                                            that lasted into the 1960's. 
                                            
                                            As the Human 
                                            Rights Campaign, Congressman Barney 
                                            Frank, and many other gay and lesbian 
                                            leaders have pointed out, however, 
                                            Dole and the rightwing sponsored DOMA 
                                            for the express purpose of taking 
                                            gay support away from Clinton. They 
                                            knew he couldn't sign onto a measure 
                                            that had so little public support 
                                            unlike the Employment Non-Discrimination 
                                            Act, the first federal gay civil rights 
                                            statute, which Clinton did support. 
                                            
                                            
                                            I think we need to spend the next 
                                            four years educating and expanding 
                                            public support, and also chipping 
                                            away at such non-federal areas as 
                                            getting health, housing, and insurance 
                                            for domestic partnership, and the 
                                            right of same-gender couples to be 
                                            custodial parents. Here in New York, 
                                            we also had a high-spirited mass wedding 
                                            ceremony of gay and lesbian couples, 
                                            with the leaders of many churches 
                                            officiating. Perhaps as the first 
                                            President to appoint open gays and 
                                            lesbians to the highest levels, and 
                                            to support gay rights policies in 
                                            health and employment, there will 
                                            be the right moment to try again. 
                                            
                                            
                                          Q: 
                                          If Bill Clinton is reelected but the 
                                          Democrats don't take the House back, 
                                          what will be the implications for the 
                                          promises he made regarding the welfare 
                                          bill?  
                                          A: 
                                            Clinton has made clear that he can 
                                            and will rectify some of its worst 
                                            measures through a combination of 
                                            executive order and line-item veto. 
                                            (When it comes through for appropriations, 
                                            the line-item veto would allow him 
                                            to get rid of some of its ridiculous 
                                            rightwing ideas; for instance, spending 
                                            $250 million to teach abstinence to 
                                            pregnant women.) But that won't change 
                                            the legislation's fundamental problem 
                                            of putting a five-year limit on the 
                                            cumulative time an individual can 
                                            rely on welfare (thus assuming that 
                                            in five years, good jobs will miraculously 
                                            appear and children's needs will miraculously 
                                            disappear); throwing children on the 
                                            mercy of state legislatures (which 
                                            are the most special-interest controlled 
                                            of all our various forms of government) 
                                            failing to help biological parents 
                                            in the important social job of childrearing. 
                                            
                                            
                                            With Clinton as the first President 
                                            who knows what its like to be the 
                                            son of a single mother with no economic 
                                            resources, we have a chance of re-fashioning 
                                            welfare reform in a way that is more 
                                            compassionate and realistic. For instance, 
                                            we pay more to keep someone in prison 
                                            than we would to send that person 
                                            to Harvard. Why not spend a little 
                                            more in the early years, and help 
                                            children of welfare to grow into productive 
                                            citizens? The fact that we have a 
                                            higher percentage of our citizenry 
                                            on welfare than any other democracy 
                                            in the world - and a higher percentage 
                                            of our citizens in jail than any other 
                                            country in the world - are related. 
                                            
                                            
                                            Even without Newt Gingrich and Bob 
                                            Dole in punitive Congressional leadership, 
                                            we will still have to work like crazy 
                                            to educate about what welfare is really 
                                            like and who's really on it. More 
                                            of the estimated 70 million people 
                                            who were on welfare at some time in 
                                            their lives will have to stand up 
                                            and be counted. That may be the only 
                                            way to get rid of this ridiculous 
                                            idea that the average recipient is 
                                            a black teenage girl who has children 
                                            in order to be generously kept by 
                                            the government. (In fact, most people 
                                            on welfare are white, and our welfare 
                                            payments are the lowest in the world.) 
                                            It's a return to the idea that poverty 
                                            is the fault of the poor - perhaps 
                                            even a genetic fault - that hasn't 
                                            been around since the work houses 
                                            for the poor in the 19th century. 
                                            
                                            
                                            But Clinton did come to Washington 
                                            wanting to invest $11 billion more 
                                            in the "social capital" of people 
                                            now abandoned to welfare - and he 
                                            did veto two welfare "reform" bills 
                                            that were even worse than this one 
                                            - so we have reason to believe that 
                                            he's not happy with this current bill 
                                            that cuts $55 billion, and punishes 
                                            welfare recipients in many other ways. 
                                            I believe he should have vetoed this 
                                            bill, too. No matter who is there, 
                                            we have to keep the pressure on. As 
                                            Franklin Roosevelt said "We cannot 
                                            be content, no matter how high the 
                                            general [American] standard of living 
                                            may be, if some fraction of our people 
                                            - whether it be one-third or one-fifth 
                                            or one-tenth - is ill-fed, ill-clothed, 
                                            ill-housed or insecure." But as he 
                                            also said to a group of citizens who 
                                            came to lobby him, "You've convinced 
                                            me - now go out and force me to do 
                                            it." (For more about the realities 
                                            of welfare and what to do about them, 
                                            see The Tyranny of Kindness 
                                            by Theresa Funiciello, Atlantic Monthly 
                                            Press. It's good ammunition for the 
                                            fight that will have to be waged after 
                                            the election at a state or a federal 
                                            level - or both.) 
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